Heider CFX "750m throw"

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Happen to see this Heider CFX flashlight.

The special thing with this relatively small flashlight is it can throw 750m as claimed by the manufacturer. 750m can be translated into 140,625 candela.

Is it possible? I don’t know but here are some of its descriptions and my thoughts:
1) XM-L2 (unknown bin) LED, without dedome I safely presume?
2) Only 31mm head diameter!
3) TIR optics. I don’t have experience with TIR optics but I don’t think it is the ideal design for ultimate throw while being efficient?
4) At the price of $89.90 it is not too expensive if I consider it at the same level as Fenix, Nitecore, Olight… etc. But at this price point I also don’t think it has wavien collar to make it throw tremendously better without dedoming the LED.
5) Other assumption can be overdriving the LED real hard… but how hard can it take with only one 18650? Over 6A?

The manufacturer however keep claiming that their 750m is real in their website. To me it is not so possible, at least for today’s technologies, unless they do not measure with the ANSI standard (where the light intensity left 0.25lux) but until, says, 0.1 lux?

What say you?

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750m 

750m Tongue Out

I'm betting that beam shot test photo is not 750 meters.

Gold plated components? That must be the key right there.Tongue OutTongue Out

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Runtime on highest mode is

Runtime on highest mode is 1,5h, it’s definitely not hardly driven. Beamshot is a fake – it definitely comes from a flashlight with classic reflector. They also have “Super Torch”:

http://supertorch.com/en/index.php

Cheap Sipik SK68 copy (worth $5 shipped) that they sell for $50 (with cheapest charger and crappy 14500 cell). And their claims are questionable as well: 5W, 300m range, “1.2V 3000 mA rechargeable battery as an option” (I thought Sanyo’s2700mAh ones have the highest real capacity). Oh, and the beamshot is a fake too.

They are olso pretty arrogant – not only they sell cheap chinese copies with ridiculously high prices but they also claim that:

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Heider Products are unique due to their design and technical specifications and they are all register products

Which is simply a lie!

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Yup. Those Heider lights

Yup.

Those Heider lights are just false advertising.

The beamshot on their website is completely fake. It comes from a different light with a traditional reflector. There was a thread on CPF last year where someone even identified where the beamshot came from. Apparently Heider didn’t even bother to make their own fake beamshot… instead they just stole someone else’s legitimate beamshot.

The light itself is just a Sipik SK68 clone. Nothing special about it. There are many different SK68 clones and all are cheap budget lights, worth around $5.

The styling of the original Sipik 68 itself is a clone of the Nitecore Extreme.

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Heider CFX Heider CF2
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What about
The computer processors that regulate it’s current (driver) and then don’t forget their free shipping and huge price reduction, yeah I gots to get me ones of thems not!
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real one

so where would i get a real one of these or similar for that price or less? ,, would like one with with the zoom feature where it can flood and zoom

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Sup.

It kinda looks like a Ultrafire C1 with zoom.

Pretty sure even an LED Lenser could outthrow it.


Anything on eBay under the search 'Cree XM-L zoom 18650' would be of very similar performance.

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Firelight2 wrote:Yup.

Firelight2 wrote:
Yup.

Those Heider lights are just false advertising.

The beamshot on their website is completely fake. It comes from a different light with a traditional reflector. There was a thread on CPF last year where someone even identified where the beamshot came from. Apparently Heider didn’t even bother to make their own fake beamshot… instead they just stole someone else’s legitimate beamshot.

The light itself is just a Sipik SK68 clone. .


3 minutes with google image search* reveals the image they use, without the writing, here:

“supernova-e3-shimano-alfine-dynamo-lighting-system”

Ripoff !

*Neat feature – drag and drop an image from a website into the search box at images.google.com and it’ll find others.

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A NITECORE EC25 is cheaper

A NITECORE EC25 is cheaper and brighter.
What a scam.

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Google image search is

Google image search is something I’ve recently discovered, very cool.

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I think you can divide the

I think you can divide the price by 10 and then find the light they printed their name on somewhere for that price just like the sk68 re-branded Heider Wink

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Same with the “750m super

Same with the “750m super torch” beamshot, original picture pic is an TK70! Crazy

http://www.forolinternas.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=4420

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Xeno G5 ? Or most probably a

Xeno G5 ? Or most probably a clone of it.

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Amazing how their beam shot

Amazing how their beam shot looks like like HKJ’s review of the TN30 waaaay back in 2012

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/9910

I wonder if those are HKJ’s pictures or someone elses…

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It has been mentioned before

It has been mentioned before – they stole all beamshot pictures.

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do not buy from

do not buy from metem/HEIDER.Torches are not as they say (1000 meters, 700 metri..bull**it).Shipping isn’t free, there are always customs fees; and if you’re lucky your tax refund customs takes place after 2 months.They are very bad seller.There are torches better than heider and there are sellers better than those liars

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Welcome to the forum

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lol* wow that heider seller

lol* wow that heider seller never gives up trying.

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These types of scams really

These types of scams really tick me off. Angry Check out the corporate link. I wonder whos’s pics he stole and photoshopped these from? He’s probably some lazy drunk hanging out in a filthy little gutted apartment waiting to scam some unsuspecting lumen newbies.

I think I just found the scam artist; caught while setting up his dumpster find:

He is apparently located on Amsterdam, Netherlands. I wonder if the local government would respond to shut him down and punish.

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They're LYING !

Heider?? Whoa there…

I’d be VERY wary of buying a flashlight that doesn’t have a FIRE in its name Tongue

Seriously though… I see these kind of claims all the time. Especially flashlight brands that I’ve never even heard of.

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Nice find

What a joke. So sad to see the folks get scammed by people like this.

I had a fellow hunting buddy who showed up oneday to hunt and he was so proud of the his new super powerful light. He was foaming at the mouth to show me. He claimed it was the brightest one he could find. He paid over $100 for a cheap C8 from Ebay. He said it came with everything! And it did. It had a $2 charger, some “fire” batteries, cheap lanyard, and cheap velcro holster, tail cap tape switch, and filters. He was so proud, I didn’t have the heart to tell him he had about $20 worth of gear. So I just acted impressed. lol

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Ricflair wrote:What a joke.

Ricflair wrote:
What a joke. So sad to see the folks get scammed by people like this.

I had a fellow hunting buddy who showed up oneday to hunt and he was so proud of the his new super powerful light. He was foaming at the mouth to show me. He claimed it was the brightest one he could find. He paid over $100 for a cheap C8 from Ebay. He said it came with everything! And it did. It had a $2 charger, some “fire” batteries, cheap lanyard, and cheap velcro holster, tail cap tape switch, and filters. He was so proud, I didn’t have the heart to tell him he had about $20 worth of gear. So I just acted impressed. lol


Sad story, indeed. Sad

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I guess you bought one

I guess you bought one then Roger?

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My favorite part is this

My favorite part is this picture of a flashlight lighting up an entire mountain brighter than the sun from miles away.

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