Heider CFX "750m throw"

Happen to see this Heider CFX flashlight.

The special thing with this relatively small flashlight is it can throw 750m as claimed by the manufacturer. 750m can be translated into 140,625 candela.

Is it possible? I don’t know but here are some of its descriptions and my thoughts:

  1. XM-L2 (unknown bin) LED, without dedome I safely presume?
  2. Only 31mm head diameter!
  3. TIR optics. I don’t have experience with TIR optics but I don’t think it is the ideal design for ultimate throw while being efficient?
  4. At the price of $89.90 it is not too expensive if I consider it at the same level as Fenix, Nitecore, Olight… etc. But at this price point I also don’t think it has wavien collar to make it throw tremendously better without dedoming the LED.
  5. Other assumption can be overdriving the LED real hard… but how hard can it take with only one 18650? Over 6A?

The manufacturer however keep claiming that their 750m is real in their website. To me it is not so possible, at least for today’s technologies, unless they do not measure with the ANSI standard (where the light intensity left 0.25lux) but until, says, 0.1 lux?

What say you?

750m

I'm betting that beam shot test photo is not 750 meters.

Gold plated components? That must be the key right there.

Runtime on highest mode is 1,5h, it’s definitely not hardly driven. Beamshot is a fake - it definitely comes from a flashlight with classic reflector. They also have “Super Torch”:

http://supertorch.com/en/index.php

Cheap Sipik SK68 copy (worth $5 shipped) that they sell for $50 (with cheapest charger and crappy 14500 cell). And their claims are questionable as well: 5W, 300m range, “1.2V 3000 mA rechargeable battery as an option” (I thought Sanyo’s2700mAh ones have the highest real capacity). Oh, and the beamshot is a fake too.

They are olso pretty arrogant - not only they sell cheap chinese copies with ridiculously high prices but they also claim that:

Which is simply a lie!

Yup.

Those Heider lights are just false advertising.

The beamshot on their website is completely fake. It comes from a different light with a traditional reflector. There was a thread on CPF last year where someone even identified where the beamshot came from. Apparently Heider didn’t even bother to make their own fake beamshot… instead they just stole someone else’s legitimate beamshot.

The light itself is just a Sipik SK68 clone. Nothing special about it. There are many different SK68 clones and all are cheap budget lights, worth around $5.

The styling of the original Sipik 68 itself is a clone of the Nitecore Extreme.

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The computer processors that regulate it’s current (driver) and then don’t forget their free shipping and huge price reduction, yeah I gots to get me ones of thems not!

so where would i get a real one of these or similar for that price or less? , would like one with with the zoom feature where it can flood and zoom

It kinda looks like a Ultrafire C1 with zoom.

Pretty sure even an LED Lenser could outthrow it.


Anything on eBay under the search 'Cree XM-L zoom 18650' would be of very similar performance.

3 minutes with google image search* reveals the image they use, without the writing, here:

“supernova-e3-shimano-alfine-dynamo-lighting-system”

Ripoff !

*Neat feature - drag and drop an image from a website into the search box at images.google.com and it’ll find others.

A NITECORE EC25 is cheaper and brighter.
What a scam.

Google image search is something I’ve recently discovered, very cool.

I think you can divide the price by 10 and then find the light they printed their name on somewhere for that price just like the sk68 re-branded Heider :wink:

Same with the “750m super torch” beamshot, original picture pic is an TK70! J)

http://www.forolinternas.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=4420

Xeno G5 ? Or most probably a clone of it.

Amazing how their beam shot looks like like HKJ’s review of the TN30 waaaay back in 2012

https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/8440

I wonder if those are HKJ’s pictures or someone elses…

It has been mentioned before - they stole all beamshot pictures.

do not buy from metem/HEIDER.Torches are not as they say (1000 meters, 700 metri…bull**it).Shipping isn’t free, there are always customs fees; and if you’re lucky your tax refund customs takes place after 2 months.They are very bad seller.There are torches better than heider and there are sellers better than those liars

Welcome to the forum :smiley:

lol* wow that heider seller never gives up trying.

Heider?? Whoa there…

I’d be VERY wary of buying a flashlight that doesn’t have a FIRE in its name :stuck_out_tongue:

Seriously though… I see these kind of claims all the time. Especially flashlight brands that I’ve never even heard of.